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When we left off in part one, Matthew Hoffman had tied Sarah Maynard up so that he could take a nap after brutally killing three of her loved ones. Part two picks up with Matthew clean up the scene while keeping Sarah locked in his cold, dark basement where she was left to sit on a makeshift bed made from, you guessed it....leaves. While Matthew was working on the rest of his plan, like burning down the home, the police were working behind the scenes and luckily able to rescue Sarah. 



Case begins at 11mins 30 seconds because we had a philosophical discussion about not letting toxic shit into your bubble. We understand some people may want to skip! :)



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The Girl in the Leaves by Robert Scott

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Matthew John Hoffman was a strange guy. He was in a constant flux of being a quiet, yet unassuming guy to then having bouts of strange and off-putting behavior. It was his love of trees that gave him comfort and seemed to keep him settled at times, but on November 9, 2010 he broke into a quiet home in Apple Valley, Ohio, brutally taking the lives of Tina Hermann, her 11 year old son Kody and her best friend Stephanie Sprang, before leaving with 13 year old Sarah Maynard in his clutches. 



Soon, Hoffman's obsession with trees would become the defining piece of this killer's pathology. In Part 1, we discuss his puzzling history, the lives of Tina, Kody and Stephanie, and the house of horrors he brought Sarah back to. 

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In this episode, we present to your earholes some beautiful, whimsical and wonderful friends of the pod Your Magic. 



Today, Your Magic pulls back the curtain on the many misconceptions about Satanism. Exploring demon conjurings (spoiler...they can be kinda cute!) and the beef between the Temple of Satan and the Church of Satan. Meeting three different types of Satanists- atheistic, theistic and satanic witches- we mostly learn that the devil is our friend. Plus, we dive into the meaning of The Devil card with Hannah Graves, creator of Cult Mother Tarot, learning how to work with its dark and disciplinary energy.  



Your Magic is a podcast hosted by author Michelle Tea. Every episode explores contemporary spirituality and magic with lots of humor and heart. Usually, they read their guests tarot – including people like Kathryn Hahn, Japanese Breakfast, Phoebe Bridgers, and so many other amazing people and then offer a DIY spell or ritual that anyone can do. But, in this episode – the host Michelle Tea dives deep into Satanism, the Satanic Church and the Satanic Temple and explores what it actually looks like to worship Satan.


If you like the episode, you can find the podcast only on Spotify or support them at patreon.com/thisisyourmagic. You can also find them on Instagram and twitter @thisisyourmagic

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Listener Tales 38 brings us multiple doozy’s. We read a tale about an axe-wielding murderer, the ghost of a little girl covered in barbed wire, and a backwoods gas station that led to two of our listeners being involved in a time slip. If you have a listener tale that you’d like to share with us you can send it to [email protected] and just make sure that you add “Listener Tale” somewhere in the subject line :)



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Part two of the Wonderland murders has arrived! We open up with one of the most gruesome crime scenes in Hollywood's history and then go down a rabbit hole trying to figure out who exactly was involved and how each event led to the next. By the time we’re done two men will have been arrested multiple times, one will have gone on the run and the other left to avoid prison time. 

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Book mentioned: Malice in Wonderland by Robert Souza and Tom Lange  



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The Wonderland Murders, or The Four on the Floor case is a case from the old days of Hollywood. It’s not the kind of old Hollywood case that Ash usually delivers, this one instead is a totally different take. The Wonderland Gang was made up of a group of people you definitely would not want to mess with, however one of the key players in this case, John Holmes did just that. He got on the bad side of the gang and had to come up with a way to get back in their good graces. Unfortunately that plan would lead to one of the most gruesome mass murders the police had seen since the Tate-LaBianca murders.

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Article mentioned during the episode: The Devil and John Holmes 



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Alaina brings us the news of her first novel (Ash is so fucking proud) The Butcher and the Wren(available to pre-order now!!!!) and also brings us the case of The Butterfly Man. Frank Lockhart was known around town as a pretty normal dude who tried to sell handmade butterfly hair clips to make some extra cash. He and his wife had fallen on hard times and were living in a shelter under an overpass. Little did the sweet townspeople know, this man had escaped prison where he was serving a life sentence for assaulting a young girl and would soon strike again. 


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Lisa and Joel Guy Sr. were said to be loving, kind hearted and passionate people. The two of them had raised a family together and at 55 and 61 years old were ready to retire. One caveat with their plan was that they were still providing for their grown son Joel Guy Jr. They had plans to tell him that he was going to need to start supporting himself around Christmas. Unfortunately they would not be able to celebrate their next Christmas. Their only son would brutally murder them in their home on Thanksgiving weekend.



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Alaina brings us the true story of the The St Osyth Witch trials this week. It all starts with a "naughty named" woman, Ursula, potentially causing the lameness of another woman called Grace. Causing the lameness of another was grounds for being charged with the very serious felony of Witchcraft, and really it all went downhill from there. In the end fourteen were accused, two were hanged and many more died in prison. 

The book and pamphlet used as a source for the case: 

England's Witchcraft Trials by Willow Winsham 

A true and iust recorde, of the information, examination and confession of all the witches, taken at S. Ofes in the countie of Essex whereof some were executed, and other some entreated according to the determination of lawe. Wherein all men may see what a pestilent people witches are, and how vnworthy to lyue in a Christian Commonwealth. Written orderly, as the cases were tryed by euidence, by W. W 



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We’ve made it all the way to the 37th installment of Listener Tales and somehow you guys have done it again!!! You had us cackling with your tales of ankle licking ghosts and life saving Snoop Dogg playlists and shaking in our boots about Skinwalkers ruining camping trips and more! Listener Tales 37 is a treat, enjoy!



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